Jesus said: "And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man."
Luke 17:26
Today we are seeing the marriage covenant turned into evil practices... just as it was in the 'days of Noah.'
Today we are seeing terrorists in the Middle East heralded as heroes, 'men of renown,' just as the 'days of Noah!'
¶There were giants [Nephilim] in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Genesis 6:4
Genesis 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 ¶And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
This is yet another reason to believe that 'endtime' is not coming... the 'endtime' is NOW!
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DeletePlease see my other comments.
DeleteThe sons of God are like those who are filled with Almighty.
Nephilim are like Nimrod or those like Nimrod who "hunt the people filled with the Almighty"
Wherefore it is said, "Even as Nimrod, the Mighty hunter before the Lord."
While your over-all presentation generally appears sound, your attitude in referencing "space aliens" seems rather aloof & disingenuous.You use a rather snarky/condescending approach. I think that any Christian who even entertains these ideas certainly believes the nephilim to be demonic in origin and not "space aliens". Do you even believe that angels and demons exist at all or that they ever interact in the physical realm? Do you consider that too much of a stretch and too unrealistic for our modern civilized world? If angels can be entertained by us unaware and demons were once angels (some of whom are now reserved in chains because of their deeds while others were clearly roaming around in Jesus' day) why should Christians find this possibility to be too fantastical? Does the "reserved in chains" reference hold another meaning? (Word study ?) I feel inclined to inquire then if you believe in present day miracles and/or in any present day workings of The Holy Spirit? Does the Bible say that in the last days that there will be miracles (or miraculous seeming acts performed by anyone other than God.) Do you believe that the Masons/Illuminati etc. are in (or attempting ) contact with these forces ? Are these things in the Bible or aren't they ?
DeleteThe undertone you're missing is genetic manipulation. Noah was pure in his generation meaning he was pure in his genetics. Just as in Noah's days we are experiencing a global genetic manipulation of plants, animals, human beings, crossing species that weren't meant to be mixed. Demons are the disembodied spirits of the genetically manipulated humans who were wiped out during the flood. not to be confused with fallen angels.
DeleteWrong, Wrong, Wrong.
ReplyDeleteIn Job it means people who are born of God.
The day is Saturday and Job and his buddies are doing an animal sacrifice and where ever two or more of you are gathered in His name, there is "Love" (Christ Jesus) and this sort of "Love" really can't wait to tease Satan again for all his stupid wandering to and fro throughout the Earth along with his wasted life of following a man whom Satan wants to have stumble as if that is some great goal to achieve.
Bottom Line: Carl has made a clear, contextual, Biblical case that the WORD OF GOD does NOT speak of demons or angels having sex with women to produce another race of beings. The Bible just does NOT say this, Jesus did not mention it, Paul does not mention it, nor does ANY N.T. writer. Remember the N.T. writers had the FULL revelation of God's Word in Jesus - the Word that became flesh.
DeleteSo Sons of God in Job 1 are people and the conversation is going on, on the Earth, and God still comes down on Saturday to see the sacrifices for Him as opposed to walking with Adam in the cool of the day.
ReplyDeleteNephilim means the product of a godly man and a ungodly woman which brings about a child who if evil knows what to kill as his father taught him truth and his mother taught him to hate the truth. Nephilim would thus be the bully thug, AirBrushBill. Don't be so quick to write nonsense thinking you are smart when it shows a real lack of discernment on the topic.
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DeleteYou are violating "Occam's razor" when coming to this conclusion. Your premises are far reaching and stretches reason and rational analysis.
DeleteThe phrase at the end of verse 1:5 (this did Job continually) and the phrase that begins in verse 1:6 (now there was a day) clearly establishes a contextual shift between Job's sacrifice and the "Son's of God" presenting themselves.
There is also enough scripture in other places that support this conclusion; including, new testament accounts of Jesus casting out demons.
This stretching of meaning is dangerous because it leads people to accepting man's interpretation in areas that have profound consequences in their understanding, which could inevitably lead some to stray or lose focus.
Man's explanation of passages should fit soooo completely and rationally into the Bible so that a novice or child in Christ has no doubt as to what has been explained.
So, as a novice and seeker of the truth, I completely reject your interpretation on the basis of logical reasoning in the completeness of scripture (old and new). In addition, I even question the conviction of Mr. Gallop's interpretation (with all respect). For me, I see both giants of size and men of renowned as being separate qualities inherent in these passages. So to me: they both existed.
I have a difficult time accepting the idea that the "sons of God" are in fact just evil men. Especially, when we read how the offspring of Abraham on down had sons who continually took for themselves women from tribes that were clearly pagan and evil in nature. Not to mention the book of Danial and the prophesy of the toes. Who's "they?" That they are described as mingling with the seed of man, but cannot.
DeleteBut we dont know all the books of the Bible. Take the book of Mary for one. Remember whom by, and how the Bible was translated by the Vadican. What else dont we know they they are hiding from us?
ReplyDeleteWow, thanks for clearing that up Carl!
ReplyDeleteHow come Perry Stone teaches this that fallen Angels married women? And he gets this from other Hebrew sources like the Book Of Jasure and Rabbical teachings. It also could be held true that Godly people married ungodly women, but unless they were backsliden like Solomon who did likewise, how could they have kept their Godly status?Most Godly people want to marry people like themselves. It raises alot of questions altho my Bible Commentary says both intereptations could either be true the case in Genesis 6. Steve Quayles book, "Genesis 6--Giants" also interpets marriage as creating giants[lots of photos] as well as N.T. Jude and historian Josephus states the same that angels intermarried..
ReplyDeleteHow come? Because - Perry Stone goes for the sensational to sell books and DVDS - ALL THE TIME. He also quotes from sources OUTSIDE the Word of God. Nuff said! Bottom Line: Carl has made a clear, contextual, Biblical case that the WORD OF GOD does NOT speak of demons or angels having sex with women to produce another race of beings. The Bible just does NOT say this, Jesus did not mention it, Paul does not mention it, nor does ANY N.T. writer. Remember the N.T. writers had the FULL revelation of God's Word in Jesus - the Word that became flesh. Please stick to the Word of God. Sadly, Perry Stone does not always do so.
Delete2nd Peter 2 : 4 This verse was not mentioned in your video. This is God's answer to the subject in question.
ReplyDeleteIf this is referring to ALL angels that sinned (? demons) then why do we see Jesus and His disciples contending with demons? Are we to believe that we are currently residing in Hell ?
DeleteJude 1:6
DeleteAnd the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
What does "kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation" mean ?
...maybe these chains are symbolic of losing position/power, yet we DO see sentient demonic interaction happening in our realm as mentioned in scripture, even in the presence of Jesus himself. This manifestation alone lends some credibility to the possibility that demons (whether directly or through consultation initiated by evil men) can influence/direct activities that could result in corruption of human DNA. Was DNA manipulation not what Hitler sought? Why does scripture say Noah was "perfect in all his generations" when we KNOW he was not perfect in the spiritual sense of the word (other than by faith)? Chuck Missler (a rocket scientist btw) seems to think that this is a reference to DNA purity for messianic lineage preservation reasons (which would really no longer be an issue). Could there be other present day demonic reasons to manipulate DNA ? Still not entirely convinced either way on this subject.
DeleteCould "space aliens" and associated abductions actually be demonic activities ? Is it too fantastical to believe this while yet believing that demonic possession and physical angelic visitation are possible? Is not the whole of creation merely an atomic matrix where spiritual reality manifests ?
DeleteI think I may have posted this in the wrong place earlier...
ReplyDeleteWhile your over-all presentation generally appears sound, your attitude in referencing "space aliens" seems possibly aloof & disingenuous.You use a rather snarky/condescending approach. I think that any Christian who even entertains these ideas certainly believes the nephilim to be demonic in origin and not "space aliens". Do you even believe that angels and demons exist at all or that they ever interact in the physical realm? ( I believe I already know the answer to this) Should we consider that too much of a stretch and too unrealistic for our modern civilized world? If according to scripture angels can be entertained by us unaware and demons were once angels (some of whom are now reserved in chains because of their deeds while others were clearly roaming around in Jesus' day) why should Christians find this possibility to be too fantastical? Does the "reserved in chains" reference hold another meaning? (Word study ?) I feel inclined to inquire then if you believe in present day miracles and/or in any present day workings of The Holy Spirit? Does the Bible say that in the last days that there will be miracles (or miraculous seeming acts performed by anyone other than God ?) Do you believe that the Masons/Illuminati etc. are in (or attempting ) contact with these forces ? Are these type of spiritual things in the Bible or aren't they ?
I would like to see a discussion of this topic between Carl Gallups and Chuck Missler.
ReplyDeleteCarl would welcome it. Carl thinks a lot of Chuck Missler. However, Carl disagrees, in respect, with Chuck on this point.Bottom Line: Carl has made a clear, contextual, Biblical case that the WORD OF GOD does NOT speak of demons or angels having sex with women to produce another race of beings. The Bible just does NOT say this, Jesus did not mention it, Paul does not mention it, nor does ANY N.T. writer. Remember the N.T. writers had the FULL revelation of God's Word in Jesus - the Word that became flesh.
DeleteCould "space aliens" and associated abductions actually be demonic activities ? Is it too fantastical to believe this while yet believing that demonic possession and physical angelic visitation are possible? Is not the whole of creation merely an atomic matrix where spiritual reality manifests ?
ReplyDeleteHi Carl,
ReplyDeleteI took the same stance as you most of my walk. I started looking at this other view a year ago. there were no people with biblical faith and godliness during the time of Noah except the eight so I don't know who the godly line of men were (in that particular view) except for Noah and his family. Mike Hoggard gives 3 lengthy videos on youtube on this subject and he brings out many scriptures that marzulli, horn, prophecy in the news along with ppsimmons seemed to have missed or avoided or should research more before teaching on the subject. Hoggard teaches almost exclusively from KJV only. And there is a lot more in there then I realized on this subject.
Also, I never heard any of these guys say they beleive in space aliens. They are giving a view that explains why mythologies exist about some of these things way back to the sumerians and are tying it into the whole transhumanism and transgenic thing that mere men are even doing today. We now of spider-goats making bio steel, we have glow in the dark kittens, goats, rabbits, and zebra fish and we even have the fish-tomato. Don't beleive me? Look it up. The U.K. has also been tampering with over 150 human-animal hybrids and this goes back at least 2 to 5 years already and that is WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT. And remember this to, the technology WE KNOW ABOUT NOW is at least 30 years behind what they really have. Stealth Bomber was a good example. Flight tested in 1959 but not used till Desert Storm in 1990. Hitler also had stuff in the 40's that they are finding out now that were extremely advanced.
And then we get into the pseudopedigriphical books that say a whole lot about these things you are teaching against. The Book of Esther was NOT found in the Dead Sea Scrolls yet I beleive ti was 7 books of Enoch were yet we Canonized Esther adn probably rejected the Book of Enoch because it stated some of these things we jsut find too out there. I am not saying we should canonize those books but yet the Eastern Church has always had the Book of Enoch in the scriptures.
Most of the guys are teaching that the Illuminati or higher ups are going to use a false alien invasion to deceive the world to believe in aliens and then the gospel would be meaningless. so I think you misquoted them very badly and they are on our side. They don't use scriputre enough but Hoggard and Missler do.
Jesus talked about deceiving signs in the heavenlies in the last days and almost all the UFO sightings happened in the last 50 or so years. So I think He did warn us but our interpretation means everything. The United nations even has a paid position Ambassador to Aliens now. The UN is based on the occult and Theosophy so they are getting ready to deceive the world and most calling themselves Christians in America will be deceived becase many alreayd beleive in natural evolution and this will be the next step.
Bottom Line: Carl has made a clear, contextual, Biblical case that the WORD OF GOD does NOT speak of demons or angels having sex with women to produce another race of beings. The Bible just does NOT say this, Jesus did not mention it, Paul does not mention it, nor does ANY N.T. writer. Remember the N.T. writers had the FULL revelation of God's Word in Jesus - the Word that became flesh.
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