Zev Porat

Saturday, December 20, 2014

BIBLE PROOF! We ARE living in the Trumpet Days of Revelation!

WANT (BIBLE) PROOF  THAT -
WE MAY BE LIVING IN THE TRUMPET DAYS?


Do you want plain Bible truth, with scripture interpreting scripture? Have you wondered about the significance of the 7 trumpets of Revelation, the timing of the rapture, the identity of the "two witnesses," etc.? Do you want to know what the Bible says about ITSELF - without appealing to the "traditions and teachings" of the orthodox rabbis and traditional eisegetical insertions and assumptions? How is it even possible that we might be living in the "trumpet days" now? What would be the actual fulfillment of the trumpet visions?  Read on ...

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The Seventh Trumpet of Revelation ... 
The Rapture of the Church?

The Apostle John  (On the island of Patmos - around 90 AD)
 

But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, [ the seventh trumpet] when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. Revelation 10:7
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The Apostle and Prophet Paul
told the church what the "mystery" was about 30 years before John:

Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.  

I Corinthians 15:51-52
 

Years prior to Paul's revelation to the Corinthian church, he also spoke about the rapture to the church of Thessalonica. In that discourse, Paul also associated the rapture with a trumpet blast.

For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.   After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 1Thessalonians 4:16-17

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Jesus also mentioned a "trumpet blast" at the "gathering" up of His people in the last days.
 

And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Matthew 24:31
 
 
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BIBLICAL AND HISTORICAL FACTS:

John said in 90 AD - the "mystery of God" will happen at the 7th or LAST trumpet ... just like the "prophets said."

Paul said (before 67 AD) - the "mystery of God" is the rapture - and it WILL happen at the LAST trumpet.

Paul is the ONLY one in the entirety of God's word to link "mystery of God" with a "trumpet" and of all things - the LAST trumpet. It is also a fact that the seventh trumpet of Revelation, last mentioned in Revelation 11, is the VERY LAST time the word trumpet is used in the entire Bible. So - the seventh trumpet is actually the last trumpet of that series and it is literally the last trumpet in the Bible - the very last trumpet of God!

If we stick with only the Word of God, the only series of trumpets in the New Testament that Paul could have been referring to is what was revealed to John (the 7 trumpets of Revelation). But this should be no surprise - Paul would have seen these trumpets from God - thirty years before John (2 Corinthians 12:4)! That is why John most likely was referring  to Paul (the ONLY one who ties a mystery with a trumpet) as a "prophet."  There is NO OTHER PROPHET in the entire word of God who does this! And John would have known this fact. Who ELSE would John have been talking about - and of whom the early church would have known about?  The answer to this question is (biblically) obvious.

It is an indisputable fact that Paul DID receive end-time revelations from God long before John did. Thus he truly was a prophet to the early church and John would have been very aware of this. We know this because Paul speaks of trumpets, the end-times, the times of the antichrist, certain qualities of the antichrist, the rapture, resurrection bodies, the coming of the Lord Jesus, the terrible times related to the last-days, the false prophets that would appear in the last days, etc... Paul even told the church at Thessaloniki that he had told them the things of the end times "many times before" (II Thess. 2:1-3). Paul spoke of these things to the church (and often) long before John was given the book of Revelation. Paul died in 67 AD at the hands of Nero. John wrote Revelation in 90-95 AD.

The ONLY Bible prophets to speak of "mysteries" were Daniel and Paul (look in a concordance). Jesus used the word once in Mark 4:11 (this is repeated in the very same context in Matt.13:11 and Luke 8:10) speaking of why he spoke in parables. But, Paul was the ONLY one to tie the specific word "mystery" and the last-days "mystery revelation" with the blowing of the LAST trumpet...the ONLY one.

Revelation 10:7 and I Corinthians 15:51-52 CANNOT be biblically separated. They are referring to the same event. There is no biblical evidence otherwise. One has to go outside the Bible to make a disconnect between these two verses.

Some say that Paul was talking about a "different" last trumpet than John. But why would we assume THAT? If we stick only with the Word of God - that scenario is impossible. What "different" series would Paul have been talking about? The ONLY series of trumpets in the New Testament is the seven trumpets of Revelation (which Paul would have seen before John!) We will not apologize for staying inside the Bible to interpret the Bible.


The only other series of trumpets in the Bible (there happens to be seven there also!) is the seven trumpet days of Jericho in the book of Joshua in the Old Testament. The pattern of Jericho fits precisely the pattern of the Revelation trumpets! 

It was on the 7th day at the blowing of the 7th series of trumpet blasts that the walls of Jericho (representing the evil world system) came down and God's people "went up" into the Promised Land! (A beautiful rapture picture!). The six days of trumpet blasts before the 7th were "days of warning" to Jericho that the end was near and that God's people would inherit the land. Of this there can be no dispute. There are no other "series"of trumpets in the Bible. So - to which biblical series was Paul referring?

Some say that Paul is referring to the "Great Trump" of the Feast of Trumpets - the "last" trumpet blown on that Jewish feast day. The orthodox Hebrews call it the Tekiah Gedolah – meaning - one extra long blast - the final blast on that feast. This is all fine and good, but the problem with equating this definitively with what Paul and John say is that the "last trump" of the "feast of trumpets" is found nowhere in the Bible! This particular concept was an invention of the orthodox rabbis (see the Talmud) - it was never a prescription in the Word of God! If you say "that is what Paul meant" - you have to go outside the Bible! And, you have to put the teaching of the rabbis (the traditions of men) above the clear Word of God! And, you have to "assume" that Paul was doing the same! Is that really how you wish to interpret the Bible?

The ONLY thing that God's word prescribes concerning the Feast of Trumpets is that the Israelites were to blow trumpets on ONE day. That's it!  Not two days (as the rabbis and tradition later prescribed) and not hundreds of blasts (as the rabbis and tradition later prescribed - actually they prescribed "at least 30 blasts" but the modern practice is more around 100 blasts on each day). How can an honest student of the word relate rabbinical traditions as being equal to the word of God in order to interpret the words of Paul? 

 
The Festival of Trumpets as prescribed by The Bible: (Leviticus 23)

23 The Lord said to Moses, 24 “Say to the Israelites: ‘On the first day of the seventh month you are to have a day of sabbath rest, a sacred assembly commemorated with trumpet blasts. 25 Do no regular work, but present a food offering to the Lord.’”

See these for references to the (two days of celebration, the "great trump" of Rosh Hashannah, the number of blasts, etc.)
http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/C_5a.html
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Fall_Holidays/Rosh_Hashannah/rosh_hashannah.html
 
Additionally: there is only one place in the entire Bible that mentions a great trumpet. It is found in Isaiah 27:13. The vast majority of commentators agree that this is a reference to God's promise of returning the scattered nation of Israel back to the land in the last days. (Some think it is a reference to God allowing His people to return to the land in the days of Nehemiah and Ezra under the Persian captivity period). This "great trumpet" blast is in no way connected with a rapture event, especially as the rapture was explained by Paul and by Jesus (Matthew 24). The last trumpet that Paul mentions cannot be tied to the "great trump" of Isaiah. It simply is not a biblical connection.

Isaiah 27:13
And in that day a great trumpet will sound. Those who were perishing in Assyria and those who were exiled in Egypt will come and worship the LORD on the holy mountain in Jerusalem.


Some bible students will say that Paul was talking about the "great trumpet" blown on the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) (Leviticus 25). The Jews call this the shofar hagadol - meaning the "great trumpet.". The problem is that nowhere in the Bible is the trumpet blast of Yom Kippur called the "great trump" the "great trumpet" or the "last trump" or the "last trumpet."  The Bible simply says that there should be a trumpet blast on that day.  It is rabbinic tradition (You know - that same tradition stuff that put Jesus on the cross and gave the Jews the practice of Kabbalah!) that called this trumpet blast "the great trumpet" - not the Bible - and not a command of God.  Neither Paul, nor Jesus, nor John use the designation "great trumpet" when speaking of the trumpet blast associated with the rapture. The ONLY designation that Paul gives it is "the last trumpet" - and, again, the only "last trumpet" of a series that is actually IN THE BIBLE - is the Seventh Trumpet of Revelation.

To this day, the shofar is blown only once on Yom Kippur: one long blast at the very end of the holiday, signifying that  the celebration of it is over.  If this is what Paul meant - surely he could have easily said so - and he most likely would have called it the "great trumpet" - but he did not. Instead, he ties the "mystery" of God with a "last trumpet."  This is the SAME thing that John does in Revelation 10:7. Contextually speaking one would be much safer in assuming that John and Paul are speaking of the very same thing, especially since they use the very same language and descriptions. Why should we assume anything else?

Leviticus 25:9
9    Then have the trumpet sounded everywhere on the tenth day of the seventh month; on the Day of Atonement sound the trumpet throughout your land.


NOTE: Some, in an effort to circumvent the above biblical truths, actually attempt to say that a "trump" is different than a "trumpet!"  We kid you not. For a quick and great proof that they are absolutely mistaken - read this brief article ... http://ppsimmons.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-great-trumpet-debate.html
 
JOHN'S "CATCHING UP" IS THE RAPTURE?

BY THE WAY - if one wishes to argue that the rapture of the church is presented in Revelation BEFORE the 7th trumpet blast - we would ask "where?" The usual answer is that John's "catching up" (Rev. 4:1-2)  is the rapture. But the Bible does not "say" that! In fact - it does not even hint that. This is a typical example of "reading into" a passage to make it say what one wishes it to say. The truth of the matter is simply that John was "caught up" into the presence of God - as was the apostle Paul - years before John! Neither John nor Paul claim that their experiences represented the rapture of the church.

In fact, if one says that John's "catching up" represents the rapture of the church - why doesn't Paul's "catching up" (30 years earlier - in 2 Corinthians 12) represent the rapture of the church? John went on to live many years after he wrote Revelation. Why is his vision a representation of the rapture - but Paul's is not? To say that John's "catching up" is the rapture - many bible students would say is nothing more than mere  speculation - but it is not proper, contextual, exegetical, biblical interpretation - no matter how one tries to make it so.

But - we CAN tell you what the Bible DOES say: Rev. 10:7 - "in the days of the 7th trumpet the mystery of God will be revealed." And in  I Corinthians 15:51-52 -"behold I will tell you the mystery! In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, we will all be changed, at the last trumpet." THAT is what the Bible says. 

BOTTOM LINE: John and Paul obviously knew what they were talking about. Paul had already "revealed" the mystery of the last (seventh) trumpet  to the church long before John had done so. John merely refers back to it in Rev. 10:7.

Therefore - the 7th trumpet (letting the Bible speak for itself) is the RAPTURE. Therefore the six trumpets before the 7th will happen BEFORE the rapture. 


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Carl Gallups says, "I have presented the above scenario of the trumpets, John, Paul, Revelation 10 and I Corinthians 15 to  prophecy conference crowds and people of other rapture-timing persuasions for over 25 years. I have yet to receive a biblical answer to the scenario that disputes what I have laid out. Admittedly, there are answers, but they do NOT come from the Bible. Their answers come from rabbinical teaching, Hebrew traditions, or the mere speculation upon scripture by modern day authors, etc. It has always been odd to me that those who hold to the pre-tribulation rapture teaching would be so willing to go outside the clearly revealed word of God in order to prop up their understanding of their theory of interpreting the Bible. This makes little sense to me and is, in my opinion, actually treading on very dangerous ground. These biblical truths are not things that I have discovered just recently. I have been teaching them since the beginning of my ministry almost 30 years ago."


Gallups went on to say, "I always leave room to be wrong about these deep matters of eschatology. I leave room to be open to correction - but only in a contextual biblical manner. I give no credence to what is outside the clear, contextual, exegetical layout of God's revealed Word. I always want to begin with what the Bible plainly says - first.  However, I do not break fellowship over this matter. I am not at "war" with those who believe in the pre-tribulation scenario. I pray they are correct and that I am wrong.  I just don't see it in the plain, contextual, interpretation of scripture. I have dear and close friends with whom I communicate several times a week who are staunch advocates of the pre-tribulation rapture belief. This is not a matter upon which we need to part company - in my opinion. Scholars have been debating these issues for 2,000 years and they are still in disagreement. I doubt if any of us have this matter settled 100%."






  
Three sample responses to the above video on YouTube postings:
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Rowan Oath Keepers

I dropped the last shreds of my pre-trib after living in Turkey for 5 years. I always had trouble reading Matthew 24 in context and then believing what I had Ben taught about the rapture. While in Turkey I discovered the pre-trib rapture theory was less than 150 years old and was a western church doctrine. I challenge you to spend time in Islamic countries and listen to believers who suffer and die for their faith. It will change your life.

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gdsteyr

Superb teaching I was also brought up on pre trib teaching but I don't see it in the Bible. Christians have an inherent weakness for following men and their teaching without testing what they hear against the word of God. Praise God for the internet I'm from Wales UK and would not have a hope of hearing stuff like this without the internet. I've just pre-ordered your new book and can't wait for it to arrive once again in Jesus name thank you and God bless.

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Connie Oelbaum
 

 Thanks, Carl! It's high time to get this out. I am anti-pre-trib not only for 30 years, but for 40 years. I have waited for this discussion ever since. I think this biblical perspective is going to change many more most important approaches to scripture, if not even our relationship to the Lord himself!

The mystery is even deeper: We know learn from our messianic brothers (see Jonathan Cahn or Mark Biltz) that the rapture will be fulfilled on the Feast of Trumpets (Rosh Hashanah) and that the time of the gentiles is coming to an end and that God's guidance of history is again turning to the Jewish People. If Mathews 24, 31 is dealing with Jesus' coming (in the clouds!) for his church (rapture), which I belief, then it is a myth to think that the world will not see it happen and will just miss the believers. Then the whole world will see him coming in the clouds and fetching his Bride for heaven. And then there is a special role for the Messianic Body within the Church to prepare for Yeshuah's coming and there has yet to come the fulfillment of the great mystery of the unification of the whole church (to be one in Yeshuah).

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WHAT DID JESUS SAY ABOUT THE RAPTURE?


MORE TO CONSIDERBelow are the words of Jesus Himself. He is answering the question His disciples asked concerning the very end of days and the signs of Jesus' return to earth to rule and reign. Jesus gets to the very end of days by talking about the days of the antichrist... Observe the words of Jesus... we have highlighted the important words in RED. We will let the Bible interpret the Bible - FIRST.



Matthew 24:15-31

15 "So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel — let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great distress (tribulation), unequaled from the beginning of the world until now — and never to be equaled again. 22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect — if that were possible. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

26 "So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the desert,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29 "Immediately after the distress [tribulation] of those days   (VERY IMPORTANT WORDS!)

"'the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'

30 "At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.


Observations:

1. Several times Jesus says - "when YOU see."  (You = believers in the last days - That is the immediate context of Jesus' answer. That is of whom He is speaking. There is no other biblical context to this understanding without interjecting an outside interpretation!)

2. Therefore - believers WILL see the antichrist. Therefore the church must get ready for some tough times! (Like the church in Iraq, N. Korea, China, Sudan, the Middle East  - is experiencing NOW!)

3. The antichrist will bring on the "great distress" or "great tribulation." Revelation 13 says he will attack the "saints."  Rev. 13 says this calls for great patience and endurance on the part of the "saints." The word SAINT - means "separated one."  There is only ONE way to be "separated" unto God - especially in the last days. To be separated unto God one has to be under the blood of Jesus - to be saved, or born again. In other words a "saint" is a "Christian." The word "saint" in the NT does not mean  "Jews" or "those saved after the rapture" - it means "CHRISTIAN."   In Matthew 24 Jesus calls those under this great tribulation "the elect." The "elect" are the same as the "saints" or those who "belong to God through Christ." The Bible says that the antichrist will be attacking Christians during the time of the "great tribulation." 


4. JESUS SAYS - immediately AFTER the distress [or tribulation] of "those days" (the days of the antichrist viciously attacking God's people) there will be the rapture at the sounding of a trumpet!  (This is the same thing Paul says in I Corinthians and 2 Thessalonians, and the same thing that John says in Revelation 10:7) Jesus could not have been clearer in this matter. What Paul and John say agree completely with what Jesus said. In other words, Jesus plainly said that sometime after the antichrist begins his attack on Christians and the church - the rapture will occur. This is exactly what Paul says in 2 Thessalonians. Read the words for yourself...

2 Thessalonians 2:1-6:
Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him [rapture], we ask you, brothers,  not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come.  Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day (the rapture - being "gathered" to the Lord) will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness (antichrist) is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.  He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God. 5 Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things?


Objections by Pre-tribulation rapture teachers about Matthew 24:

They claim that Jesus was talking about the "Jews" who would be "left behind" after the rapture. They say this is evidenced by the words "let those living in Judea (Jews)"  and "Pray your journey does not occur on the sabbath (Jews being the only ones restricted by sabbath journey laws)." Therefore, they say - this passage is for Jews and not the church. The church will already be raptured.

Biblical, Contextual problems with the above objections: 

HUGE PROBLEM!  The same ones who claim that Matthew 24 is "only for the Jews" also claim that Matthew 25 and the parable of the 10 virgins is a "perfect example" of the pretrib rapture theological position!  They point out that Jesus is using the Jewish wedding custom example for His teaching of "how it will be" in the last days. Of course the problem is that the this teaching is a PART of the Matthew 24 discourse!  Remember - there were no chapters and verses in the original gospels. Jesus is still talking to the same "Jews" at the same time as he was talking about Matthew 24 principles.  Conveniently, the pretribbers grab hold of Matthew 25 for an "illustration" of their teaching while rejecting Matthew 24 as having anything to do with the "church" in the last days. But - they can't have it both ways - not in honest scripture interpretation. 

Nowhere does Jesus EVER say the 'church' will be raptured first and then the Jews left behind will endure tribulation and then THEY will be raptured. This is a "reading into" of the scriptures and not a contextual "taking out of" the scriptures. This is one of the very worst forms of biblical interpretation methods. Jesus was simply answering His disciples plain questions about the signs of the very end of days.

Jesus was talking to, and talking about, "the elect"; the church, the saints - everyone under the blood! Of course His language would have Jewish overtones to it! (Judea, sabbath journey, etc.) He was talking to Jews. The early church was made up entirely of Jews for the first two decades until Paul evangelized the Gentiles.

To say that Jesus' "Jewish  language" means that what He said was ONLY for the Jews would HAVE to mean that EVERYTHING Jesus said, and EVERYTHING the New Testament says before Paul reached out to the Gentiles, was ONLY for the Jews.  How ridiculous. What an uncontextual way to interpret scripture. Do those who hold to a pre-tribulation view really believe that the entirety of the New Testament before Gentiles came into the church was written only for and about Jews? Of course they don't. Why do they then believe it about ONLY this passage of scripture?

A contextual tying together of scripture makes the biblical truth very plain:

1. Jesus said the antichrist would attack Christians. Paul said the antichrist would attack Christians. John said the antichrist would attack Christians.

2. Jesus said the rapture would occur at the sounding of a trumpet. John said it would occur at the sounding of the seventh, or last, trumpet. Paul said it would occur at the sounding of the last trumpet.

3. Jesus said that times would be tough for Christians in the last days. Paul said times would be tough for Christians in the last days. John said times would be tough for Christians in the last days.

4. Jesus said the rapture would occur AFTER the antichrist is revealed. Paul said the rapture would occur AFTER the antichrist is revealed.  John said the rapture would occur AFTER the antichrist is revealed.

John further punctuates this truth in Revelation chapter 7 :

Revelation 7:9-15
After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, (not only Jews!) standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10 And they cried out in a loud voice:

"Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb."

11 All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying:

"Amen!
Praise and glory
and wisdom and thanks and honor
and power and strength
be to our God for ever and ever.
Amen!"

13 Then one of the elders asked me, "These in white robes — who are they, and where did they come from?"
14 I answered, "Sir, you know."

And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

The words "come out of" indicate they had been IN the GREAT TRIBULATION!  These words in the Greek do NOT mean they had been delivered FROM the tribulation before it ever started,  but that they had come OUT of the midst of it!  Some came by martyrdom, some came by the rapture - but they HAD been IN the great tribulation. IN FACT - the primary way in which this Greek word is interpreted in the KJV is "after" or "among!"  So - the text could also read "these are those who came after [or from among] the great tribulation." Both the KJV and the NIV translations render it " they have come out of" - however, this also is crystal clear...they had been in the tribulation. They were not raptured before the tribulation. The bible, interpreted contextually, could not be any plainer.

NOW WE COME BACK TO THE BEGINNING!

John said in the days of the 7th trumpet the "mystery of God" would be complete.
Paul says the mystery of God is the rapture of the church and it happens at the last trumpet.
Jesus said the rapture would occur with the blowing of a trumpet during the days of the antichrist.

Therefore - the 7th trumpet of Revelation is the rapture of the church. This means the 6 trumpets before the 7th are warnings to the world (and to the sleeping church!)  that Jesus is soon to return. Now...what do those symbols of the first 6 trumpets mean - and have they happened in our lifetime?  Get the book and find out!  You will be blown away by what you will discover.


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“We need to understand the times more than ever … [and] Final Warning is  quite revelatory … Carl Gallups boldly shares not only God’s vision and judgment for all his creation, but His plan that is unfolding today.” (Bill Martinez, host of Bill Martinez Live)

“Once in a great while a book comes out that has the touch of God upon it to such an extent the reader is forever changed. Final Warning: Understanding The Trumpet Days of Revelation is a must for everyone who is seeking the truth. Pastor Carl Gallups takes a clear look into God’s Word. He has done a masterful job in revealing the truth about the end times.”
(Zev Porat, Messiah of Israel Ministries)

"Final Warning provides fresh insights into the book of Revelation. Pastor Carl's extraordinary insight and scholastic documentation of the events of the Book of Revelation educate and astound me. I assure you, the content of Final Warning will educate and amaze you too!" (Dr. Joda Collins, evangelist, pastor, and scholar)
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[Carl's new book reveals how all of the first 5 trumpets have already happened and the 6th is in the process of coming to pass right now - before our very eyes. Carl pulls from over 25 years of research and uses military, journalistic, MSM, scientific, historical, and contextual biblical resources.  YOU MUST GET THIS BOOK]
 
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WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES OF REVELATION 11?

WOULD YOU LIKE SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER?
(Now that we see how to "let the Bible interpret the Bible" - FIRST...let us do this simple exercise:)


Are the two witnesses really two men standing at the Wailing Wall and preaching? Are they really Moses and Elijah?  Hmmm. The Bible (original Greek) does not say they are two men. Some English translations insert the word "men" but the original text does not have that word. The Bible does not say the witnesses are at the Wailing Wall. It does not name the witnesses as Moses and Elijah - or any other names.  WHAT THEN does the plain text of the Bible say about who are the witnesses?   Read it for yourself:

Revelation 11:3-4
3    And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth."
4    These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth.

That is ALL the Bible says in the way of "who" the witnesses are!  That's it!  BUT - this is very important information because the Bible TELLS us who the lampstand and the olive tree are (is).  Read for yourself:


Revelation 1:20
20    The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.
(This is from the same book as Revelation 11!)

The very same book says the lampstand is THE CHURCH!  (this fact is indisputable)


On top of that, the very same book says that the lampstand can also be the "witness" or the Holy Spirit power of the church! Read it for yourself:


Revelation 2:4-5
4    Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken your first love.
5    Remember the height from which you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.

Now...who does the Bible say is the Olive Tree?   Read for yourself:


Romans 11:24-25
24    After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!
25    I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel [the olive tree about which Paul is speaking] has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in.

THERE CAN BE NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!  The Olive Tree (according to the plain text of the Bible) is Israel!  Especially "spiritual Israel" and now ... the "returned Israel!"  The returned Israel is a WITNESS to the world of God's promise, His glory, and the truthfulness of the Word of God in the last days!  WOW! How can any serious student of the Bible dispute this biblical fact?

There is only one other place in the Bible that speaks of "two witnesses of God in the last days" and it is in Zechariah chapter 4. And of all things - the two witnesses are identified as Olive Trees and Oil Pipes (lampstands)! [See Zechariah 4:11-14].  Do you think that the early church would have been thoroughly familiar with this imagery and interpretation of it since this is the only place in scripture that contains the imagery? In addition, the early church relied heavily on the Old Testament prophecies - the Tanach was their Bible ... until the New Testament documents began to circulate throughout the churches. Of course they understood it! It seems highly doubtful they would have interpreted the two witnesses of Revelation 11 to be two "men" who appeared in Jerusalem in the last days - spitting fire out of their mouths - like fire-breathing dragon monsters!

Who are the witnesses in Zechariah? Almost every conservative commentator down through history has interpreted these images to mean that Israel would bring forth the Messiah and through Him - the church. And, that the church would become the "spiritual Israel!"  They proclaim that the olive tree is Israel built upon the word of God and the prophets and the golden oil pipes - lampstand is the ultimate fulfillment in Jesus and the birth of the church by the "pure oil" (Holy Spirit). And, this is exactly what the New Testament says (Romans 11 and Ephesian 2, and elsewhere).

By the way - do you know what Scofield's notes say on the text for Zechariah 4:11-15?  Scofield SKIPS this section  - without commentary!  How convenient.  In Zechariah 4:2 his notes simply say the two witnesses are "Joshua and Zerubbabel."  However, the biblical text does NOT say this. That is merely an assumptive interpretation and not a textual  interpretation.

So (biblically speaking) the "witness" of Revelation 11 is a combination of the Olive Tree and the Lampstand!   God's witness in the OT was always Israel!  God's witness in the NT was, and is ALWAYS, the Church - plus NOW... the world has the returned Israel (2,500 year old prophecy) as a "witness" - PLUS we have the biblical fact that the "spiritual Israel" IS the church!  And, the church IS the "spiritual Israel!" The two have become one.   Read it for yourself:


Ephesians 2:12-22
12    remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world.
13    But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.
14    For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility,
15    by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace,
16    and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility.
17    He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near.
18    For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.
19    Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household,
20    built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.
21    In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord.
22    And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?  It means that Revelation 10:7 declares that at the 7th trumpet days the "mystery" of God would be revealed!  Paul tells us in I Corinthians 15:51-52 that the "mystery" is the rapture of the church (or spiritual Israel - they are one in the same thing - the two have become one).  By the time the 7th trumpet days are presented in Revelation 11 - guess what is happening?   The witness(es) (The Church and/or spiritual Israel) is being raptured!  Read it for yourself:


Revelation 11:11-17
11    But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered [the two witnesses], and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them.
12    Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, "Come up here." And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on....


15    The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever."
16    And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God,
17    saying: "We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign.

The only other places in the entirety of God's word speaking of a people "going up into the clouds" after a "voice" and a "trumpet call" of God are in Jesus' words, and Paul's words, about the rapture - of the CHURCH!

Then ... in chapter 11 verse 18 (AFTER the rapture. AFTER the seventh trumpet has blown.) it is proclaimed,  now..."Your wrath has come!"  That's it! That's the timeline that the bible lays out - the tribulation, the rapture, the wrath of God poured out.

We have never been promised to be "taken out" of tribulation (ask the people in the days of Noah, or Moses, or Sodom and Gomorrah) - but we have always been promised that we would not suffer God's wrath. Tribulation is brought about by sinful man (the Antichrist in the very last days) and wrath is brought about by God Himself.

The "TWO" witnesses are the spiritual and returned ISRAEL and the blood-bought CHURCH!  That is exactly what the Bible says - indisputably.   Notice that same passage in Revelation that identifies the two witnesses as the olive tree and the lampstand say that they also - "stand before the Lord of the earth."

The Church and the nation of Israel have always "stood before the Lord of the earth" as His witnesses - always!  There are not "two men" who "stand before the Lord of the earth" as God's exclusive, called, special witnesses...only Israel and the Church - the olive tree and the lampstand.


Do you see it now?

Read this post left under the Youtube video about this topic...

Mike Page Think im beginning to see it ! This article makes more sense to me than any thing ive studied. Every point is backed up with scripture. I can see how the church and Israel are the two witnesses ! wow ! i can see clearly that Jesus, Paul, and John are talking about the same trumpet ! I am going to read this article again, and chew on it a while. Thanks guys !



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The PAROUSIA and the RAPTURE - More Biblical Proof Refuting The Pre-tribulation Rapture Doctrine

A Study of The Biblical Language and the Rapture Timing


The answer to the mystery hinges on the use of the biblical word in the Greek language – Parousia.
Are you ready to examine what the BIBLE says?  Read on!

Parousia from Outline of Biblical Usage (Blue Letter Bible Greek Dictionary)
1.      presence
2.      the coming, arrival, advent
1.      the future visible return from heaven of Jesus, to raise the dead, hold the last judgment, and set up formally and gloriously the kingdom of God
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Vine's Expository Dictionary:  The words in red and brackets are my added notes…

Parousia – “Coming” (Noun):
lit., "a presence," para, "with," and ousia, "being" (from eimi, "to be"), denotes both an "arrival" and a consequent "presence with." For instance, in a papyrus letter a lady speaks of the necessity of her parousia in a place in order to attend to matters relating to her property there. Paul speaks of his parousia in Philippi, Phl 2:12 (in contrast to his apousia, "his absence;" see ABSENCE). Other words denote "the arrival" (see eisodos and eleusis, above). Parousia is used to describe the presence of Christ with His disciples on the Mount of Transfiguration, 2Pe 1:16.

When used of the return of Christ, at the Rapture of the Church, it signifies, not merely His momentary "coming" for His saints, but His presence with them from that moment until His revelation and manifestation to the world. [In other words – His final arrival as opposed to His “first” arrival as God With Us.]
In some passages the word gives prominence to the beginning of that period, the course of the period being implied, 1Cr 15:23; 1Th 4:15; 5:23; 2Th 2:1; Jam 5:7, 8; 2Pe 3:4. In some, the course is prominent, Mat 24:3, 37; 1Th 3:13; 1Jo 2:28; in others the conclusion of the period, Mat 24:27; 2Th 2:8.

The word is also used of the Lawless One, the Man of Sin, his access to power and his doings in the world during his parousia, 2Th 2:9. In addition to Phl 2:12 (above), it is used in the same way of the Apostle, or his companions, in 1Cr 16:17; 2Cr 7:6, 7; 10:10; Phl 1:26; of the Day of God, 2Pe 3:12.
  
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In other words – the Greek word parousia - used for the “coming of our Lord” - is used in the context of His ultimate “appearing” or His “final arrival” or an “arrival” that was greatly and finally anticipated because it was promised. This is how the word is used in biblical context – throughout. AND - throughout the New Testament when the word "parousia" is used in reference to Christ's final coming  - the idea of the rapture is attached to it!  Every time!

Now let us examine the contextual use of parousia in Paul’s revelation to the church at Thessalonica.
In 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 we find these words:

 

1 Thessalonians 4:15-18 

15            According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming [parousia – final arrival] of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.
16        For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
17        After that, [after the parousia – the final appearing of Christ to the world] we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together  [raptured - within biblical context, that is ALL this could mean] with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.
18            Therefore encourage each other with these words.
But, just in case one is still not convinced; this is not the only place in the letters to the Thessalonians where Paul uses the word parousia.  Observe the other three uses of the word – in the same letter and context:


1 Thessalonians 2:19

For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming? G3952
(Our "hope" is that we are finally "in the presence of" Jesus (raptured) - at his FINAL COMING.)


1 Thessalonians 3:13
To the end  [at Jesus final coming!] he may establish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming G3952 of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.

 

1 Thessalonians 5:23

And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming G3952 of our Lord Jesus Christ.

NOTE: Why would Paul pray that our body would be preserved unto the coming [parousia] at the end, if we had been raptured/resurrected/changed into our glorified bodies seven years earlier – as the pre-tribulation rapture teaching espouses?

Also, note that in Paul’s second letter to the same church – he states the following:

 

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3

1            Concerning the coming [parousia – final appearance] of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, [the rapture – it is the same thing he says in 1 Thessalonians 4:13!] we ask you, brothers,
2          not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come.
3          Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
Compare also the use of the word parousia (final and expected coming) in the following verses - Matthew 24:3, Matthew 24:27, Matthew 24:37, 1 Corinthians 15:23, James 5:7 -8, 2 Peter 1:16, 2 Peter 3:4, 2 Peter 3:12, and I John 2:28. 


How could it be any clearer once one knows the linguistic context and the scriptural context?  The rapture occurs AFTER the antichrist is revealed to the world. Then Jesus “reveals” Himself and comes [parousia] to take His church. There is no pre-trib rapture taught here – or anywhere else in the Bible – from a contextual viewpoint. It just is not there.

Additionally, we are not aware of a single instance of a scholarly definition (lexicons, dictionaries, commentaries, etc.) of the word parousia before the early 1900’s, and the advent of the Scofield Reference Bible, where parousia was ever translated (in reference to Jesus’ coming) as anything other than His final appearance at the time of the end – on the Lord’s Day.

The plain biblical truth is that throughout the Bible it is declared that Jesus would come only twice to earth. Once as the Word that Became Flesh – God With Us – the incarnate Christ of God. And the second time is when Jesus returns as the Lion of Judah, King of Kings and Lord of Lords. It is at this parousia that the Bible plainly reveals the rapture will occur. This is what the contextual interpretation of the Bible says. There really is no other way around it.


Acts 1:9-11
After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.
They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them.“Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”

 Revelation 1:7
"Look, he is coming with the clouds," and "every eye will see him, even those who pierced him"; and all peoples on earth "will mourn because of him." So shall it be! Amen.



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The comment below was left at the PNN Facebook page under our link to this article. We have reproduced it here :

 David Rice An example of Pretrib eisegesis.

• Pretribbers believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, therefore, they skip the first five verses of 2 Thessalonians 2 and start with verse 6.

 • “And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way.”
• Starting there, they make a wild guess and say that one identified in Scripture only as “he” is the Holy Spirit.
• Then, with no Scriptural basis whatsoever, they assume that the Holy Spirit MUST leave the earth in order to stop restraining the “Evil One” or the “spirit of lawlessness”.
• Scripture doesn’t say that but they are sure that that is true.
• Based on their guess that “he” is the Holy Spirit, Pretribbers then make the assumption that the Holy Spirit must leave the earth in order to stop restraining evil.
• Based on a guess and an assumption, they are possessed of the conviction that if “he” whom they guess is the Holy Spirit must leave the earth in order to quit restraining, which is an assumption, “he” must take the Church with Him.
• Now, standing on a guess and an assumption Pretribbers are convinced that they will go with Him.
• Therefore based on a guess, an assumption and a conviction, Pretribbers know that the Rapture is Pre-Trib.
• Assured of that, they go back and read the first five verses of the chapter and discover that we cannot be gathered to Christ unless the Man of Sin is revealed first.
• “Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and OUR GATHERING TOGETHER TO HIM, that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one in any way deceive you, for IT WILL NOT COME UNLESS THE APOSTASY COMES FIRST, AND THE MAN OF LAWLESSNESS IS REVEALED, THE SON OF DESTRUCTION, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things?” (2 Thessalonians 2:1-5)
• That conflicts with what Pretribbers have already believed, a belief based on a guess, an assumption and a conviction.
• Placing their guess, their assumption and their conviction ahead of the clear and plain Scripture that precedes it, Pretribbers decide that those verses must be speaking about the Day of the Lord which comes after the Tribulation but because they are convinced of a Pretrib Rapture, they start speaking in Doublespeak.
 

Now Pretribbers are forced to conclude that WE ARE RAPTURED BEFORE THE TRIBULATION AND THEN RETURNED TO EARTH, AT THE END OF THE TRIBULATION, so that we may be gathered to Him the second time. That does not make sense, which is why Pretrib books all skip the first five verses of 2 Thessalonians 2 and start their argument with verse six.
 

Almost without exception, the passages used as proof texts by Pretrib expositors can be taken apart with equal ease. The more I look at the Pretrib Doctrine, the more evidence I find that it is a doctrine built on wishful thinking and eisegesis.

SEE THIS VIDEO FOR PAROUSIA Teaching by Carl Gallups:



SEE THIS VIDEO for teaching on what JESUS said about the Rapture timing - Teaching By Carl Gallups:



20 comments:

  1. I heard that the tribulation saints are those who believed in Jesus after the rapture had occurred.

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    1. Yes... that is the pretribulation rapture teaching. However, nowhere in the Bible is that actually said. This is only a speculation on the part of those who want to support the pretrib position - otherwise they would have to clearly see and believe what we presented above...and that - they do not wish to do.

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    2. Additionally - please remember how this article began. There is no biblical way to separate Rev. 10:7 and I Corinthians 15:51-52. Therefore the 7th trumpet is the rapture. The pretrib view says ALL the trumpets happen AFTER the rapture. If the pretrib view is that far off base biblically - what else follows?

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    3. JESUS will appear at the 7th trumpet Rev. 11:15-19. The pre-trib rapture doctrine is false and is part of the "feel good gospel".

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  2. I am not the same "Anonymous" as above. I just want to say that this article is superb! I have never seen the biblical truth of the matter laid out so clearly in my life! Thank you for your clear biblical presentation. This clears a lot up for me! SHARED!

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  3. So where does this live the rabid pretribulation crowd? Pretty much out in the cold I guess? Wow - this is some convincing stuff! Good job PNN!

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    1. Thank you sir! We have always stood on this teaching. Carl Gallups has been teaching this for almost 30 years. This is not some "new revelation" to us. It is contextual, exegetical, biblical interpretation. Glad we could help you see the biblical truths. May the Lord bless you.

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  4. The section on WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES blew me away! YES! I can see it now - for the very first time in my life! It is right there in the Bible all along! It is as plain as the nose on my face. Why couldn't I see this before? Thanks for this amazing bible study - I will be sharing this all over Facebook and at my church. Amazing.

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  5. All my life I was raised on pretribulation rapture teaching. I never could quite see it - but just went along. No longer! What you have presented in this article makes more biblical sense than anything I have ever seen before. You are right about Revelation 10:7 and I Corinthians 15:51. I pulled up a concordance - Paul IS the only one to ever address the tying of a mystery with a final trumpet. Why had I not seen this before?! You are right about what Jesus said, you are right about the two witnesses! That is exactly what the Bible says! (as you say - FIRST!) I love it! Thank you so much for clearing this up for me. I can't wait to show this to other people. God bless you!

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  6. Okay. I checked you out. I ran a full concordance check on the word mystery or "mysteries" and its ties to the word "trumpet." Uhhhhumm. (clears throat and looks at feet). You are 100% correct sir! Paul is the only one in the bible to connect the two terms as John describes in Revelation 10:7. I showed this to a pretrib friend of mine. He is dumbfounded. I showed him the stuff about the "great trump" that you guys wrote. He doesn't know how to respond. I think I have some "thinking" to do. You have rocked my pretrib world. I will sign this "anonymous" since that is an option and since I do not wish to bring down the wrath of my pretrib friends. The Rev. 10:7 and I Corinthians 15 thing has convinced me - the 7th trumpet of Revelation IS the rapture of the church - that is exactly what the Bible says. I am floored. Thank you for your boldness. I am getting the book today.

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    1. You are welcome! Thanks for checking behind us! We encourage that type of "Berean" bible study. This material in this article only scratches the surface what Carl reveals in his book FINAL WARNING! I am so glad you are getting a copy. You will be amazed - promise!

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  7. COMMENTS FROM YOUTUBE left under the video featured above in - now in this article:

    Rowan Oath Keepers

    I dropped the last shreds of my pre-trib after living in Turkey for 5 years. I always had trouble reading Matthew 24 in context and then believing what I had Ben taught about the rapture. While in Turkey I discovered the pre-trib rapture theory was less than 150 years old and was a western church doctrine. I challenge you to spend time in Islamic countries and listen to believers who suffer and die for their faith. It will change your life.

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    gdsteyr

    Superb teaching I was also brought up on pre trib teaching but I don't see it in the Bible. Christians have an inherent weakness for following men and their teaching without testing what they hear against the word of God. Praise God for the internet I'm from Wales UK and would not have a hope of hearing stuff like this without the internet. I've just pre-ordered your new book and can't wait for it to arrive once again in Jesus name thank you and God bless.

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    Connie Oelbaum

    Thanks, Carl! It's high time to get this out. I am anti-pre-trib not only for 30 years, but for 40 years. I have waited for this discussion ever since. I think this biblical perspective is going to change many more most important approaches to scripture, if not even our relationship to the Lord himself!

    The mystery is even deeper: We know learn from our messianic brothers (see Jonathan Cahn or Mark Biltz) that the rapture will be fulfilled on the Feast of Trumpets (Rosh Hashanah) and that the time of the gentiles is coming to an end and that God's guidance of history is again turning to the Jewish People. If Mathews 24, 31 is dealing with Jesus' coming (in the clouds!) for his church (rapture), which I belief, then it is a myth to think that the world will not see it happen and will just miss the believers. Then the whole world will see him coming in the clouds and fetching his Bride for heaven. And then there is a special role for the Messianic Body within the Church to prepare for Yeshuah's coming and there has yet to come the fulfillment of the great mystery of the unification of the whole church (to be one in Yeshuah).

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  8. OMGGGGGGG!!!!!! This makes perfect sense! BIBLICAL SENSE! Thank you PNN and Carl Gallups! I am sharing this now on Facebook!

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  9. I'm excited about your book, but I do most of my reading via Kindle. I went to Amazon, but right now it is only available in paperback. Any chance you will be putting it on Kindle soon?

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    1. According to the book's official website it WILL be available on Kindle!
      http://www.carlgallups.com/finalwarning/

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    2. Yes - confirmed. It will be on kindle. But only AFTER the official release date of 3 February. Thanks!

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  10. okay. this is epic! finally i have read something that makes complete sense from the bible. thank you for posting this! I live in New York. we don't have many churches here that teach on prophecy. i get most of my stuff from the internet but the rapture happening before the tribulation starts sounds nice but i was having trouble with it fitting the bible passages. this article takes care of my questions. i get it now!

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  11. This page is amazing! I just finished watching all the videos and reading the material. It took two days. I checked everything out with a bible in my hand. You are correct! It is right there for all to see if we only would look. Thank you so much for this. I am sharing this all over the place!

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  12. MANY HAVE BEEN SHARING THIS INFO. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?

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  13. It is about time the church reads and lets the Holy Spirit interpret the Bible to them instead of just listening to what people preach. Great Job!

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