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Thursday, June 11, 2020

WHAT IS WRONG WITH TONGUES?




by Rev. Joda Collins
DISCLAIMER:  I do not claim that others agree with me.

What is wrong with tongues?  Noting is wrong with tongues if you are referencing a human language as in "What is your native tongue?"  Nothing is wrong with tongues if you are referencing speaking untruths such as "He has a lying tongue."  Nothing is wrong with tongues if you are using the word in a manner that means keep quiet such as "Hold your tongue."  Nothing is wrong with tongues if you are talking about that thing that moves in your mouth when you talk.  "Tongues" is just a word like red, go, help, devote or dine.  It is not the word that is in question, but how it is used in a sentence. For example, red is a benign word, but "Better red than dead" is a statement in which the word red is offensive.  Go is just a word, but if you tell someone to "Go to hades" that use of the word can cause a fist fight.  Devote?  Just a word!  "Devote yourself to Satan," ah, now, that is a sentence.  Dine is just a word.  "Dine with demons" is a sentence that promotes or describes a perverted/evil association. 

If the word tongues is used in a sentence that promotes gibberish passed off as the language God's angels speak, that is a use of the word tongues that makes my blood boil.  

I started my second sincere search for God's will for my life in 1970.  Instinctively, I knew that meant to be active in church.  I thought a church was a church was a church and that the only real difference in any church could be things like the color of the carpet, the thermostat temperature in the room, the pastor's personality and how the church business and ministry was orchestrated.   My thinking was, there is one Bible and one God so how could there be anything other than a unified church regarding what the Bible states.  I joined a church that had the biggest cross on the property.  I thought with a big cross they must be a great church.  Give me a break, I was only 20-years old and did not come from a church background. I though the book of Job was how to find employment. It was really confusing when I first started reading it. 

I thought there were four men named John who wrote one book each in the Bible, John (who must not have been related to the other three Johns), John the first (John Senior), John the second (as in John Junior) and John the third as in John the son of John Junior.  I found a paper (tract) with John 3:16 quoted. I wanted to find that "sentence" in the Bible, so started reading all the third sentences in every section (chapter) of John, John Senior, John Junior and John the son of John Junior but found nothing remotely like "For God so loved the world...."  So I stated over and read all the 16 sentences and discovered the three was the section (chapter) and teh 16 was the sentence (verse). What a great discovery. I was very pleased with my victory.  I was on my way to becoming a Bible scholar!
   
Anyway, the church I joined was Assembly of God; decent people and a decent pastor.  I knew nothing about gibberish.  Every Sunday morning when a certain older lady was in church she would blurt out (usually during the preaching), "Shawn Donna knee eye, shawn Donna knee eye, shawn Donna knee eye, a knee eye, knee eye, knee eye, knee eye." (Or, maybe it was "dawn-ah."  I never found out.)  The Pastor would immediately stop preaching and look, with a blank expression, at that lady.  Everyone else just sat like statues, most of them just staring at the floor between their feet, as if stunned.  I just looked around thinking, "What is going on?!"    When she finished, a man (always the same man) stood up and shouted various things. One time he shouted, "God is blessing us as our church crosses the Jordan River into victory!"  The next Sunday after the same outburst from the same woman during preaching the Pastor, again, would shut up and when the "knee eye, knee eye" lady was done, the man would stand up and shout something like, "God is upset with someone in our church because he or she is smoking cigarettes so you better stop or else!"  

One Sunday, after services, I asked the man that shouted after the knee eye lady was done why he stood and said things. He said, "Oh, I am the church tongues interrupter and I tell the congregation what Ms. So-in-so (I forgot her name) said when she was in the Spirit.  I asked him what "in the Spirit" meant and he told me she was "led of God to speak in the language of the angels."  I said, "What she is saying is how angel's talk?"  He said, "Yes."  I asked him how other angels can understand what their fellow angels are saying since they say the same thing over and over but the same words mean very different things. He asked me what I was talking about?  Is said one Sunday  "Shawn Donna knee eye, shawn Donna knee eye, shawn Donna knee eye, a knee eye, knee eye, knee eye, knee eye" means God is happy with the church members and the next Sunday  "Shawn Donna knee eye, shawn Donna knee eye, Donna knee eye, a knee eye,  knee eye, knee eye, knee eye" means God is unhappy with a church smoker.  I said, "How can that be?"  He smiled and said, "When you are older in the Lord, you will understand."  He turned his back on me and walked away.

I am now 51 years older in the Lord and he was right, I do understand. Both the knee-eye lady and this man were nuts.  Whatever language God's angels speak, it isn't gibberish and they do not use the same crazy sentence to say completely different things.   

A few months later my Pastor skipped some verses in his verse by verse preaching through a particular book of the Bible.  I asked him, in private, why he skipped those verses.  He told me that they are verses that Pentecostal preachers do not talk about from the pulpit.  I studied those verse on my own and then returned to my Pastor to share with him what I thought those verses meant and to get his insight. They were verses regarding the eternal security of the saved.  I was new in the Word and knew nothing about the doctrine of eternal security except what those verses seem to mean.  My Pastor said, "Joda, you are a Baptist.  He pointed to his left and said, "You need to go to a church that is two miles that way and one block left."  He was right.  I suspect the church interpreter told him about my inquiry and my dismissal from the church was due to too many of the wrong kind of questions.  Later in my life I was dismissed from the choir because I was off-key.  Oh, the mental and emotional scars caused by the rejections are overwhelming.  Ha. Ha. :)  

I suspect what was going on in that church was demon activity in the life of the knee-eye lady masquerading as the Holy Spirit (the demon, not the lady).  I suspect the so-called "tongues interpreter" was a man that was ill-equipped to distinguish that demon activity from Holy Spirit activity and stood in church under the leading of another evil spirit to spout off at near the top of his lungs.  I suspect in the Pentecostal church nothing has changed -- other than a new crop of people, the demons are the same.

Why do I care?  My own denomination (the Southern Baptist Convention) has caved to the modern tongues movement and now hiring home and overseas missionaries who claim the modern Pentecostal gibberish is how angel's talk.  In addition, more and more Baptist preachers are silent about today's Pentecostal tongues movement infiltrating their church. 

When the Devil slithers in the front door of the church and is welcome to speak as part of the preaching service, I will not be silent.   I am kind of odd that way, I guess.   I do not attend church to listen to the Devil talk.  Of course my experience is just one person's experience and everyone has them.  Experiences mold us but experience presented as Bible truth is worthless.

If you want Bible truth about the modern day Pentecostal Church tongues movement and I hope you do, go to:

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