Rick Warren Silent on Obama's Recent "Gay" Marriage Reversal

Newsmax is reporting that leaders of some of the nation's largest religious denominations said they were distressed and saddened Wednesday by President Barack Obama's newly announced support for gay marriage.

In an interview with ABC News, Obama said, "At a certain point I've just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married."

The list of "leaders" includes New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Rev. Bryant Wright, president of the Southern Baptist Convention, Bob Vander Plaats, the head of The Family Leader, Rev. Richard D. Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, and Rev. Leith Anderson, president of the National Association of Evangelicals.

But strangely absent is the oppostion of one Rick Warren of Saddleback Church. Sure, you remember Pastor Rick! He's the guy who famously asked "Christian" presidential candidate Barack Hussein Obama what he considered to be the definition of marriage - in a televised interview no less.

Obama said that both he personally and he as a "Christian" believed that marriage was between a man and a woman. Many people were looking for that confirmation as evidenced by the thunderous applause from the audience. Yet Warren remains silent today, the day after Obama completely reversed his decision... ad evolved.

We sent out out a request to Warren's office for a comment on Obama's about-face. We'll update this post should we get a reply.

Rick Warren Silent on CFR Membership

We thought we had a good thing going with the office of Pastor Rick Warren of Saddleback church. Guess we were wrong.

After learning of his cozy relations with the Muslim community, speaking at their conferences, calling them "brothers" etc [see here] we sent en email to Warren's office asking if he was a member of the Freemasons. This was an obvious concern of ours since it is a tenet of the Masons to embrace Islam while tolerating other beliefs.

We received a response within a few days boldly declaring that Pastor Warren was/is not a Freemason [see here]. GREAT - we thought. Perhaps they will come clean on the affiliations we actually KNOW to be true about Pastor Rick. So we responded with a follow-up question.

We asked his office about his membership in the Council on Foreign Relations and his assertion that Muslims are our "brothers" [see here]. That was several weeks ago. Response? - silence. No response. It's a deafening silence really. Had they never responded to the initial question we might suppose they have a policy of not responding to these lines of questioning. However it now seems a little strange that they so emphatically denied his membership in the Freemasons and then clam up when questioned about his known membership in the globalist think tank CFR and his documented assertion that Muslims and Christians are "brothers".

If Rick Warren wants to clear the air on this we'd be glad to facilitate that discussion. As it stands he seems to be hiding from us. Still waiting.

Rick Warren - "I'm NOT a Freemason!"

We hate rumors and gossip. Generally speaking it's always best to get the facts from the source. That's not to say the source can always be trusted but it is important to get as much information as we can from the source, compare it with the facts on the ground, how the source acts in public, and what the source says in relation to how it acts and who owns the microphone and/or camera.

So we fired off an e-mail to the Warren camp about allegations that Rick Warren is a Freemason. Freemasonry is a fraternal organization which conflates many of the world's religions and philosophy into one ideology including Islam and Christianity.

Many people assumed Rick Warren is a Freemason because of his push to include Muslim groups in his "ministry" outreach to bring about a "common good", calling Muslims his "brothers". See our article outlining the evidence for this here.

So there's really no question Rick Warren has crossed a few lines here. He is promoting the idea that Muslims, who the Bible calls "cursed" and who clearly qualify as "unequally yoked" when Christians seek to unite with them, can be "good" people who Christians should be willing to work with to promote a better world.

So it's no wonder people are making the assumption Warren is a Freemason, yet, he doesn't have to be so in order for Warren to hold his views. Barack Obama is not a Freemason and he holds very similar syncretic views. So we sent off an email to the Warren camp and received a response.

PPSIMMONS -

Dear Sir...

Can you confirm or deny rumors that you are a member of the freemasons?

Thank you.

Michael D. Shoesmith

Social Networking Director

PPSIMMONS Ministries

Linda Black, Representative for Rick Warren -

Dear Michael,

Pastor Rick is NOT a member/attender of the freemasons. This is a RUMOR.

Thanks for coming to us for the truth.

Blessings,

Linda

Well there it is. Warren is emphatically "NOT" a Freemason according to his rep. It makes sense that he would not be a Freemason. We are pursuing this matter however. We have responded with questions about Warren's membership in the CFR and asked about his reference to Muslims as his "brothers". Stay tuned.

Rick Warren's Response to Criticism CONFIRMS THE CRITICISM

A few people were concerned about our recent article on Rick Warren and his ties to Islam, the CFR, the Bilderbergs et al. Some even received a response from a member of Warren's church - Saddleback. It was a personal letter from Rick dated Mar 2 to his staff... and we have a copy of it.

In it, Warren defends himself by pasting the transcript to an interview he participated in with Brandon A. Cox & Christian Post. In it he says what he guesses will be all the right christianese answers - love, respect, bring people to Jesus - the typical jargon. Yet near the middle of the interview he drops a stunner that was completely ignored by the interviewer.

QUESTION: Why do you think people who call themselves Christians sometimes say the most hateful things about Muslims?

What "hateful" things could he possibly be referring to? That unless they repent they will burn for eternity in a lake of fire? No wait - that was Jesus. Could it be that we say things like - the vast, vast majority of terrorist acts done in the world are done in the name of Allah? What "hateful" things could the interviewer be talking about? Nonetheless read Warren's response to the question:

WARREN: Well, some of those folks probably aren’t really Christians. 1 John 4:20 says, “If anyone says, ‘I love God,’ yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.” And 1 John 2:9 says “Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness.” I am not allowed by Jesus to hate anyone. Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.

That is amazing! Not "really" Christian? The rest of his answer completely boggles the mind. Without any ambiguity whatsoever Warren declares Muslims to be our brothers. He has actually confirmed the entire body of criticism against him within a single paragraph.

Please read our in-depth coverage of Warren including video footage of his entire ISNA speech here.

Rick Warren - Where He Went Wrong - Why it Matters

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In order to understand Rick Warren's current policies one must travel back in time; specifically to October 1 2002 and the release of his book "Purpose Driven Life".

I was asked to purchase a copy of Warren's book in order to review it for an acquaintance. I got as far as a single sentence in the introduction, put the book in the garbage, and told my friend to get someone else. The sentence which I found so utterly revolting was "Jesus was 'empowered' by his forty day fast".

In my book "Fast Track to Freedom" I go into great detail about this; more detail than I can afford to now. Essentially, however, we see a very different 'Jesus' proposed by Warren than the one described in scripture. Warren quoted from the account in Matthew 4 which certainly neglects to grant us the full picture. If we include the account from Luke 4 we see that Jesus was NOT 'empowered' by the fast. He powered THROUGH it!

This no trivial matter. Whenever we speak or teach anything about Jesus without a proper understanding of WHO Jesus is we are in danger of falling exponentially into further error. The full account actually teaches that Jesus was already FULL of the Holy Spirit. It is important to understand that Jesus did not receive power from the fast but rather, like I said, he went through it under full power, like an ice-breaker powering through frozen seas, Jesus accomplished under the same circumstances that which Adam did not - he beat the Devil with the WORD. Adam could have simply quoted the Word of God to the serpent and that would have been the end of the matter. Yet Jesus came along thousands of years later and showed us all how to do it. We defeat the enemy under the power of the Holy Spirit using the Word of God. Like a lion in a cage it needs no defending. Simply open the cage - it will defend itself.

This brings us to today; ten years later. And now we see on full display that which I predicted ten years ago – a full departure from the teachings of scripture on the true identity of Jesus.

In his typical liberal fashion, Pastor Warren has joined a movement known as King’s Way. The movement’s goal is to bring Christians and Muslims together without either group trying to proselytize or convert the other. This is a direct disobeying of orders from Jesus Himself who commanded us to covert (offer the adoption as sons to the lost) and baptize.

As part of this effort, Warren announced that he wants to create a set of principles that both evangelical Christians and Muslims could agree to in the effort to bring churches and mosques closer together. One of those principles is that we both worship the same God. In other words, God and Allah are one in the same deity.

Yet in one of the teaching videos on the PPSIMMONS youtube channel we clearly display the truth about the Allah/God/Jesus differentiation. Watch for yourself.

This brings us to the difference between the Jesus spoken of in the Q’uran and the Jesus plainly taught in the Bible. And this also brings us to how Rick Warren found himself and his faith coming unglued and derailed. They are two different persons. Like the difference between the Jesus (hayzus) who tends bar in Mexico city (Jesus being a popular name in Mexico) and Jesus of Nazareth (Jeshua Messiah). But why, again, is this so grave a matter? Simply put, unless we believe that Jesus is who He SAID he was, we will die in our sins!

“I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.”

John 8:24

Jesus was, and still is, God. He was God with us. He was God who became flesh. He was God who took upon Himself the sins of the world. Jesus Christ is perfect theology. As long as we believe He is who He said he is, we receive His payment for our sins and receive eternal life as adopted sons into the Kingdom. It is that simple.

Yet the Muslims believe, as Rick Warren does, in a different Jesus; in a different God. The Islamic “faith” teaches Jesus did not die for anyone’s sins and He was not God. They believe Jesus was just another prophet like Mohammed. In the eyes of the Muslim, no one’s sins are paid for… and that teaching is from the pit of hell.

We were warned about the false teachers and false doctrines that would spring up in the last days. It all begins, at least for Rick Warren and let’s face it, for practically every other cult out there, with the identity of Jesus.

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

John 8:58

UPDATE -

Rick Warren attempted to deflect criticism of his attempt to unite the Muslims and Christians under "Chrislam" in an article/interview he posted himself... the very transcript of the interview lest we be confused about his intent. In this interview he actually says Muslims are our "brothers", further cementing the fears we all know are based on reality since he released "The Purpose Driven Life". From Warren's own article:

QUESTION: Why do you think people who call themselves Christians sometimes say the most hateful things about Muslims?

WARREN: Well, some of those folks probably aren’t really Christians. 1 John 4:20 says, “If anyone says, ‘I love God,’ yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.”

Muslims are NOT our brothers. Moreover the effort, informally dubbed King's Way, caps years of outreach between Warren and Muslims. Warren has broken Ramadan fasts at a Mission Viejo mosque, met Muslim leaders abroad and addressed 8,000 Muslims at a national convention in Washington D.C.

Furthermore we have discovered that Rick Warren is an elected member of the CFR - Council on Foreign Relations. It is a think tank chaired by, among others, notorious Bildeberg member David Rockefeller. The list of members can be found at this website. Following his election to the CFR in 2005 - 2006, Warren became the spiritual darling of the White House and was asked to give the presidential inauguration prayer for Barack Obama. And at the inauguration he prayed in the name of "ISA" - the destroyer of Christianity.

Was this simply an honest mistake; the blunder of a rookie? Or was there an intent behind it; an intent to be syncretic like the President? In 2009 Rick Warren spoke at the ISNA convention; a Muslim meeting which deals with Muslim affairs. This three-part speech is embedded below. Please watch all three parts for full context. This is Chrislam - the amalgamating of two, albeit separate belief systems. into one common goal - to seek the common good of the world. It is a spiritual yoke; the most unequal yoke imaginable. Again - this speech by Warren says it all. He is promoting Chrislam here. He opens his speech with As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم) - an Arabic greeting often translated as Peace be upon you or Peace be with you. The greeting is traditionally used among Muslims around the world.

As you watch all three parts listen for the call to yoke together in violation of 2 Corinthians 6:14 which says "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

Also notice that he refers to the Muslims as "brothers" and even says God likes the diversity of religions on the earth.

Notice in the second part that he begins his description of the three major things wrong with the world with the issue of "conflict". He says it is the result of failing to reconcile with "God". And he's asking this large group of Muslims to assist him with this problem? As though any of them have reconciled with God? Hello! Warren is speaking to an entire group of people who have FAILED TO RECONCILE WITH GOD! ISLAM is responsible for the vast majority of conflict in the world today. Somebody with a true heart for evangelism would have pointed that out to these lost people. Somebody who really loved these sinners would have shown them that Jesus is the only way to solve the world's problems... because without Jesus in their lives, in their hearts, and in their culture, none of them stand a chance of doing anything good at all. I guess it's going to take someone else, Rick.